Reparations fight roars as some cities push million-dollar payments to Black Americans
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Posted by: Russ Walden ®

05/23/2023, 17:17:59

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Reparations fight roars as some cities push million-dollar payments to Black Americans

I continue to follow this story for the same reason I follow the Harry & Meghan drama -- comic relief.
California's annual budget is about $300 Billion.  The latest Reparations Committee proposal is about $800 Billion.  How many ways can I say:  Ain't gonna happen folks!

California is already projecting a $31Billion budget deficit.  Gavin Newsom is already trying to distance himself from it, although the original idea for the committee was his.  Nice try, Gavin.

Let the riots begin.

Regards,
Russ








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The blacks have created or exacerbated the majority of their own problems. Now they want us to pay reparations? I don't think so.
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Posted by: Russ Walden ®

05/23/2023, 21:43:22

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As a compromise (which nobody will like) Scott Adams suggest free/reduced cost college.
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Posted by: robertb ®

05/24/2023, 00:01:36

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Less than a money transfer, but something that might be acceptable to both parties. It could be marketed as a way to combat the "Institutionalized racism" with something of (theoretical) value. 

He also believes that our public school system, with the unionized teachers, are actually the core of the problem. Minorities are in general in lower income areas, and school funding is directly tied to property tax. This results in minorities getting an inferior education.

An interesting though exercise. 







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That'll likely cost taxpayers their money. Free isn't really "free."
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Posted by: Ihavenoname ®

05/27/2023, 17:24:22

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I see no good reason for doing that . . .
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Posted by: Russ Walden ®

05/24/2023, 13:12:45

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Robert,

The education "problems" of the blacks are cultural, not racial, as are most of their problems.

We already have "free" community colleges, and the student loan program became little more than unemployment compensation for many blacks (and whites).

"Minorities are in general in lower income areas, and school funding is directly tied to property tax."  --States vary, but this is specifically not true in California.  In the early 70's, the California Supreme court decoupled property taxes from school funding.  (I remember them well because we lived through their unforeseen consequences.)

Back to the cultural problems:

"Nowhere was the effect of the white liberalism of the 1960s on the social evolution of black culture more devastating than in the disintegration of the black family. The raw facts are these: As of 1960, 51 percent of black females between the ages of 15 and 44 were married and living with their husbands, another 20 percent were divorced, widowed, or separated, and only 28 percent had never been married. Twenty years later, only 31 percent of black women in these age brackets were married and living with their husbands, while 48 percent had never married. By 1994, an absolute majority—56 percent—of black women in these age brackets were never married and only 25 percent were married and living with their husbands.186 Accordingly, while two-thirds of black children were living with both parents in 1960, only one-third were by 1994.187 While only 22 percent of black children were born to unmarried women in 1960, 70 percent were by 1994."

(Thomas Sowell, Black Rednecks & White Liberals)

The "blacks' problems" are cultural, not racial, and no amount of reparations will solve them.

Regards,
Russ







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I agree, just putting it out as a discussion point (And I recognized Sowell's quote before I finished reading the first sentance)
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Posted by: Robertb ®

05/25/2023, 21:19:28

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College is already virtually free for blacks.
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

05/24/2023, 12:51:37

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There are already so many "loans" and "grants" available to any black person with grades good enough to qualify, that it's not really necessary to offer such a thing. 

Marxists will NEVER be satisfied until they achieve what they believe is "necessary" IOW, the destruction of Western hegemony around the world. They want to destroy both capitalism and all free-representative republican governments (Constitutional republican democracy). ALL Marxists agree on that - they believe that after they finish the global destruction, a Perfect Worker's Paradise will be put in place with a one-party tyrannical plutocratic oligarchy (two such nations now going at it in Ukraine/Russia) to eliminate counter-revolutionary forces (IOW, destroy anything/anyone who stands in the way of radical revolutionary socialism).








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All that being said, politics has been called, "The science of compromise".
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

05/24/2023, 14:17:18

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In that context, there being no perfect solutions, negotiation is a rational alternative. 

Please note that when I use the word "negotiation" it is not with scorn quotes because I mean, "a rational dialectic-based discussion" not a cacogenic Marxist or sophistic dialectic. 

Ordinarily, the 'Crats refuse to engage in a genuine rational dialectic (because facts are like kryptonite to Superman - nods to El Rushbo) but try to substitute a Marxist dialectic or sophistic dialectic and CLAIM it's an authentic rational one. 

One danger to trying to negotiate with ACFs is they try to subvert the process (refuse to negotiate rationally) then claim their opponents are the "bad guys" being "unreasonable". That is the standard Marxist gambit in agreeing to "negotiation".

That may be one good reason to think twice (and then some) before publicly "negotiating" with 'Crats. They simply try to exploit the matter for political gain. 






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Actually, I think it's the "Art of compromise." No science.
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Posted by: Russ Walden ®

05/25/2023, 13:41:39

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Mea culpa.
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

05/25/2023, 21:03:17

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