RobertB fine post below with a sublime reference to Orwell's 1984 - here is an excerpt. It's how 'Crat gaslighting works.
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

02/10/2023, 18:29:58
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Winston sank his arms to his sides and slowly refilled his lungs with air. His mind slid away into the labyrinthine world of doublethink. To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to "...hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself. That was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use of doublethink."


Gaslighting is SOP for 'Cratism these days. It has ALWAYS been necessary for Marxists to conceal their true, thoughts, feelings and intentions from non-Marxists. Obfuscation is as much a prerequisite to furthering 'Cratism as anything. Truth is the enemy of Marxism. 






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George O certainly was a great thinker. So many lessons in 1984 and Animal Farm. Sadly, I doubt many of the young have read them and even fewer understood them.
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Posted by: robertb ®

02/11/2023, 01:29:42
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While technology is growing, our society is in steep decline. I don't see anything right now that will pull us out of the dive. 

It may be that Elon Musk's dream of colonizing Mars will be that saving grace. To once again have the environment that requires people to live in reality or perish. 






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Orwell must be rolling in his grave. I had to read 1984 in high school.
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Posted by: Ihavenoname ®

02/11/2023, 09:54:32
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Both are great novels. I hope they don't get censored or banned in our country.

He'll probably be devastated by what's happening now.






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He must be pretty unhappy with us. He tried to warn us.
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Posted by: robertb ®

02/12/2023, 00:26:48
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Clearly he was someone that studied human nature. Given how well he understood the corruption of power, I doubt he would be too surprised.






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Orwell (aka Eric Arthur Blair) was a loose cannon. His work was greater than his life for the most part.
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

02/12/2023, 20:52:33
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What he got right, he got SPECTACULARLY correct. And what he got wrong he got dead wrong. His understanding of and insight to the fascist mind was dead spot on. 

From what I have read of him, Orwell was more than anything an iconoclast - who surmised correctly the central point of the saying, "Absolute power corrupts absolutely". 

The leftists always try to claim him as one of their own especially in a 'Crat-dominated administration. Then try to apply his ideas as criticism of conservative administration when the 'Crats are not in power. 

The fact is that he mistrusted ANYONE who was in power because (as Machiavelli) he understood the dynamics of temptation in regard to dominion. I put him in the same company as Machiavelli. 

The context of his time was vastly different from today. The terms "socialist" and "conservative" were almost totally meaningless in today's context. So even though he described himself as a socialist, he hated fascism in any form - including Soviet fascism. His idealism prevented him from seeing how destructive the whole socialist movement was. 

He did not have the advantage of five additional decades of observation of Marxist socialist tyranny the Post-Modern world did to inform him that it was not the application of socialism that was the problem, but the ideology itself. 







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BTW every good con man half-convinces themselves...
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

02/10/2023, 20:39:05
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...of every falsehood they try to convince others to believe. 

Cue: George Costanza (from Seinfeld): Just remember Jerry; it's not a lie, if you believe it. 






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