Pat Buchanan speaks for me on Ukraine war. Our goals are not their goals for end of war.
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

08/19/2022, 10:54:44
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The take-away for me from Buchanan's article is that Ukraine is firmly, resolutely fixed on furthering its OWN agenda for the "acceptable conditions" to end the conflict. 

Ukraine's government has steadfastly resisted outside efforts to bring substantial reform to its own government and frankly to that nation's people as a whole (deep corruption is a daily reality at every level of their society). Most recently Zelensky fired a whole bunch of people in government. His official explanation was that they were "pro-Russia", but observers believe that Zelensky is using supposed "pro-Russia" sentiments as a blanket excuse to remove anyone who disagrees with him strongly for any reason.

The Ukrainians underwent a sort of small "revolution" in 2014 which resulted in the removal from office of their president and "reforms" to be implemented. Clearly there is a lot of evidence that the "reform" movement stalled and the widely dominant corruption in which the nation is immersed (just like Russia) reasserted itself with Zelensky. 

Zelensky is great at using colorful, emotion-laden verbiage to shame, goad or weasel "help" from other nations in achieving his own personal/political goals. Those goals are not and really never have been in line with the goals of civilized nations.

 Zelensky's vision is through lenses which give he and his political allies everything they need/want while giving the world (including Russia) nothing in return. 

That is not leadership, it is self-indulgent, opportunist immaturity. 






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Yesterday, it was revealed that Zelensky has already planned for China to rebuild the country when the dust is settled. Russia/China playing the US and emptying our coffers. FRAUD ONE BIG FRAUD.
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Posted by: DeeDee ®

08/23/2022, 14:12:16
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Xiden just gave them another $1 billion.
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

08/23/2022, 21:19:55
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The outcome will be some sort of negotiated settlement similar to the Crimea arrangement. It is not necessary for Ukrainians or Russians to continue to die for corrupt leaders. Enabling the prolonging of the conflict is morally questionable for that reason alone. 

Nobody will benefit from this continued horror but a narrow, corrupt group of criminal billionaires and terrorist-enablers. 

It's time to stop pouring U.S. money into the pockets of despots and focus on the needs of the USA for a change. 

Someone needs to tell Z that the ride is over, negotiate and end it. Give an end date for the aid to stop and pull the plug.   






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Now $2 billion more.
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

08/25/2022, 02:03:45
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Add that to the $300 billion he is spending on letting deadbeat college graduates pass along their debt to non-college graduates and others who paid their loans back. 

Degenerate swine - hatred for and war on the middle class. Next, an army of IRA agents to punish any middle-income family or person that stands against the regime with tax audits. 

Satan is running the democrat party, without question. It has become evil. 

If the 'Crats are not stopped, they will never stop themselves. They have clearly pledged themselves to establishing a Soviet Union or ChiCom-style one-party oligarchy or destroy the nation in the process. They long for a USSA where political opposition is criminalized and government at all levels becomes a weapon to oppress those who dare to stand against tyranny.    






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