Should I believe Real Raw News?
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Posted by: Ihavenoname ®

10/06/2022, 16:46:38

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Has anyone heard of Real Raw News? I've been following it for quite some time from an author named Michael Baxter. Something about this site seems off. The site claims to be a "conservative news site." Many articles say that: the 45th president would come back and broadcast an emergency message from the White House, military tribunals are happening and prosecuting certain criminals, and that DeSantis is part of the deep state. There's more sensational articles like these on the site. I do not want to link here, but it's easy to look it up online.

And he claims that he gets the information from "sources familiar with the matter" at Mar-a-Lago that he "cannot reveal." I'm no military enthusiast, but even if this were true, wouldn't that be considered leaking classified intelligence (and possibly get you in trouble)? Otherwise I see this as no more than made up MAGA fanfiction. I find most, but not all of the articles posted unbelievable. But, I think there's more to that. Perhaps dangerous.

Can anyone shed light on this?






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There is a movement. I know two very beautiful people who believe that, but I'm afraid seeing is believing and I don't see it.
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Posted by: DeeDee ®

10/07/2022, 20:07:15

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It's (kind of) hard to believe anything these days.
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Posted by: Ihavenoname ®

10/08/2022, 11:43:44

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There are folks who do make sensational headlines like RRN did. One of then was a YouTube channel that appeared to be about finance-related topics, but soon turned to being pro-Trump material, saying things like the Insurrection Act was signed by him (Trump).

That person also asked for donations, and then later went offline. A liberal supporter actually called out the host for "getting away with your donations." And that supporter was right, even if I usually don't agree with liberals. Be careful about donating to independent reporters, unless you really trust them. RRN is no exception.






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You are right. Be careful. So much nonsense out there.
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Posted by: DeeDee ®

10/09/2022, 19:33:20

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No, Michael Tuffin (the O and O) is a would-be Alex Jones (without the lawsuits of course).
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

10/06/2022, 20:25:59

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Michael Tuffin, 53 is the owner/publisher of that site. He avoids law suits by claiming it's a "parody" site. I'd steer clear unless you like fact mixed with Bravo Sierra.  

It's sort of like the worst of Info Wars combined with out-and-out fabricated click-bait that is pure fiction masquerading as authentic reporting.


    He is apparently trying to make money off credulous people who choose to believe his articles for emotional (not rational) reasons, as far as I can determine. 

    Does he ever publish correct information? Possibly. But even a broken clock is right at least once per day. The worst thing is he apparently publishes heinous fiction alongside genuine fact  - confusing people looking for legit information.







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Seems just as fishy as Q
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Posted by: Ihavenoname ®

10/07/2022, 00:39:04

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Reminds me of Q (not the Q from Star Trek). Something that puzzles me is the Qanon riddles. And I guess someone asking for donations should be a red flag. I should steer away from this site. Disinformation is powerful and hard to combat.







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The 'Crats are trying to make the election about the Shaman (as if he's the typical conservative voter).
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

10/07/2022, 01:25:21

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I don't like false narratives from the MSM
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Posted by: Ihavenoname ®

10/08/2022, 11:34:51

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The news sites, or the Malice Stream Media (tm), are part of the corrupted establishment. I think Kari Lake once said the MSM are about "selling" their agenda as a business.

In the end, it all boils down to money. They only care about selling "convenient truths" or "manufactured entertainment" to be rich. The new gold rush is "digital drama selling." It comes with a hefty price tag. Either people are victimized or falsely depicted in some way (not MSM). One author said "bad news sells better than good news."

And it's not only limited to the MSM. Many shows on TV, or even YouTube, are fabricated entertainment too.







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Agree on all 100%. In general, mass media promote unreality, even the so-called "news" media.
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

10/08/2022, 17:49:17

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Media axiom - the lede (lead) story is what news reporters open with (in writing/broadcasting) to grab consumer attention. "If it bleeds, it ledes* (leads)." News reporters focus on the most-dramatic, extreme, shocking stories available as this is an enticement to attract viewers. 

PT Barnum once said carnival (circus) entertainment (in order to extract money from "marks") was a matter of giving them a show that had one or more of only five elements - sex, money, power, violence/death or freak show". Interesting how that also translates into modern broadcast journalism in many cases.  

In regard to political propaganda (advocacy journalism), they employ an old trial lawyer's trick - "when the narrative of reality is against you, ignore it and offer an alternative reality". It works a surprisingly-high percentage of the time. People can be very credulous especially when clever people are throwing selective "facts" at them. 

* The words "lede" and "lead" are both pronounced "leed". Journalists used to change the spelling for internal purposes because of the use of lead (depleted uranium metal) borders on linotype printing machines. To avoid confusion, they changed it to "lede" for print communication. It caught on as vernacular with journalists. Linotype machines ended with the invention of industrial copiers/printers using optical toner/ink-jets, so the spelling is no longer needed, but still in use.






Modified by LateForLunch at Sat, Oct 08, 2022, 19:12:52


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Sounds like the ministry of truth
Re: Agree on all 100%. In general, mass media promote unreality, even the so-called "news" media. -- LateForLunch Post Reply Top of thread Forum

Posted by: Ihavenoname ®

10/10/2022, 13:35:15

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Interesting read. This all sounds too familiar in Orwell's 1984. And it appears the current government wants to enact a ministry of truth here in America. Yikes.

And ironically, I was required to read 1984 in a liberal, progressive high school who unsurprisingly supports Bernie Sanders. Now I know why some conservatives prefer to send their children to private schools.







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It is not just the conservatives that send their kids to private schools. So do all the rich liberals. They know our public schools are crap.
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Posted by: robertb ®

10/10/2022, 20:46:38

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Public schools are good enough for YOUR kid, but not for the teacher's kids.
Go look at where the kids of the liberal elites go, and you won't find a public school in the group. They swear allegiance to the teachers' union but keep their kids far away from them.







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You have a point.
Re: It is not just the conservatives that send their kids to private schools. So do all the rich liberals. They know our public schools are crap. -- robertb Post Reply Top of thread Forum

Posted by: Ihavenoname ®

10/11/2022, 04:19:55

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I wasn't really thinking clearly on this one. *Picard facepalm

Nonetheless, I think this topic has ran it's course. We're starting to stray away from the original post.







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heh no worries!! Th facepalm is a great gesture - very Napoleonic!!
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

10/11/2022, 15:37:49

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The character Picard was a "real man". Very moral, civil, but not afraid to hurt people's feelings when challenged. heh 


At the time you were there at that school, the 'Crats were likely anti-government because it was controlled by conservatives and other normal people - which being largely deviates, the 'Crats hate. 

That never seems to change over the decades.   

The 'Crats wave banner of "Progressivism" yet have largely abandoned any pretext of upholding (classical liberal) Napoleonic virtues. None. Zero. They now say, "F**k the 'civil society' ". 

These days, they are all tyrannical, Statist toadies, busily (forgive me) sniffing their "leaders" f*rts. 

Cue: Primecut: (sullenly) Stink. 






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"They swear allegiance to teachers' unions but keep their (own) kids far from them". That was extremely well-said, sieur!!
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

10/11/2022, 03:48:18

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The endless insult of public "leaders" who believe that they may be as grotesquely hypocritical as they please.

The Democrats in Lost Angeles city/county government are melting down - council members under indictment along with their offspring, scandalous resignations involving sexual misconduct, federal raids/investigations for corruption, guilty pleas aplenty - monthly, sometimes weekly additions to the long/growing gallery of 'Crat infamy.   






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