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Re: From the land where no guns are allowed, period. None. Whatsoever. -- TEEBONE Post Reply Top of thread Forum

Posted by: LateForLunch ®

05/30/2019, 11:39:48

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Arguably the reason for Japan's renown low-crime rate (especially violent crime) may have a lot more to do with the nature of their culture (each community is very insular). Neighborhoods have a higher consciousness of what goes on around (especially suspicious/deviate elements). 

So the sorts of strange people who are incline to violent crime often are spotted, red-flagged and dealt with before they get very far in their violent tendencies. 

The low incidence of gun ownership is because of the first thing - not necessary in self-policing communities with a functional connection to law enforcement. 

In Japan the more-intense focus on conformity (having to fit in) generates a minuscule but significant number of people who "snap" from the social pressures combined with emotional illness. Some join up with the violent Yakuza or other criminal gangs/cults, other go off individually. 

There was a young first-generation Japanese fellow in my elementary school (parents were immigrants). He felt so humiliated at failing in his studies (felt the pressure from high-achieving parents) that he ultimately committed suicide. 

Once a person is prepared to murder someone, it is a psychological flip of the coin whether they murder themselves or others (or both as in this latest case). 

Occasional eruptions of psychotic violence are a sad artifact of our technocracy. Some won't figure out how to fit in to a comfortable niche somewhere, and they sometimes have freak-outs. 

In reality, such attacks have always taken place in every culture from every time in history. Few accurate records exist for ancient times but what does exist suggests that random explosions of violence from psychotic people acting out their ideas-of-reference is ubiquitous to the span of time. 

Since technology makes it easier for one person to kill more than one person every day, the easy misconception is to believe that such horrors (violent random attacks on innocent people minding their own business) were generally less common in antiquity or historically. 

It's just gotten a little easier. Note that the murder in this case used an ancient weapon (a knife) to commit mass murder. It is in line with international law enforcement research (Interpol, et al) that any committed psychopath will seek an effective means to execute their crimes even when no firearms are easily obtainable.  

IOW, it is apparently rare that a would-be mass murderer abandons morbid planning when the primary weapon of choice is denied to them. No way to know for sure (since the number of people who planned murder but stopped before executing is unknown) but the profile of people who actually carry out mass murder is alarmingly consistent in this regard. 

So if they can't do it with guns, mass murderers will virtually always switch to bombs, nerve gas, trucks, arson, swords/knives  - whatever they can get hold of when the urge to murder finally overwhelms them. 

In reality history documents how the crime rate for every culture goes down significantly with the formation of a public/private police force which has local popular support under a system of free-representative rule-of-law. 

We in Western nations have enjoyed a drastically reduced level of violent crime/murder in general since law enforcement started being done by professionals under direction of a lawful general authority. 

Vigilantism as an institution (a fixture of less-sophisticated societies, like the American old west) have more violence, including explosions of psychotic rage, because of the tendency for injustice, opportunism, errors/abuses involved in administrating justice personally.  

Whenever people are free to pursue whatever they do best to contribute to their society without having to take the law into their own hands, societies instantly become less violent and more-productive/prosperous in every way. 

But when it comes to firearms, anyone who lives in Japan who is honest, will tell you that their gun ban has not eradicated or even significantly reduced violent crime. 

See, harsher penalties for use of firearms in crimes increase the incentive for criminals to kill witnesses. If the sentence for robbing someone at gunpoint and murdering them are close to the same, a logical person might reasonably conclude that the risk/reward ratio would naturally incline them to take their chances and wack the witness.

In fact that happens in Japan and happened more often after they raised their penalties - but it still doesn't happen often 'cause their law enforcement is very good at catching murderers - about as good as our own with a roughly 85-90% clearance rate for all murders.

So there is no natural way to extrapolate an equivalency between U.S. culture (particularly in huge urban centers) and Japanese culture in regard to the way a firearms ban will function (and in the U.S. there is a constitutional/legal issue apart from the operational ones). 

Japan is a relatively small island nation with very effective local LEOs in each which is supported by the population directly. The U.S. is dominated by huge urban centers where LEOs are often frustrated in their ability to solve crimes because of a lack of support from their community. 

Hoplophobes always like to point out Japan as a shining example of gun-banning success. They are at best wearing diapers on that issue because they don't know (or else ignore) the history/dynamics of both cultures.

Gun ownership has always been a fixture of Western culture  just as weapon-control has always been a general fixture of Japanese culture (and only became gun-control with the change in technology). 

Back in ancient times, Japanese peasants were not encouraged or even sometimes allowed to possess or maintain military armor or swords unless they had a legitimate reason (decided by the community). 

Highly encapsulated, orderly, law-abiding societies such as the sort that has developed in most of Japan have different dynamics than U.S. urban societies, which have a much higher incidence of chaos/disorder and lack of support for LEOs from the population generally. 

Modified by LateForLunch at Thu, May 30, 2019, 12:24:26

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